{The List} Religion

[Tassadar500]

Introduction
This is the thread to post your thoughts about how religion should be implemented in the game. Just so you know, it has been confirmed that it will be in the game.

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[Dauphin]

War weariness should be effected by the religion of the civ you are fighting. Different religion reduces weariness/increases fervour, same religion causes unhappiness.

The religions would also have to have other specific pros and cons, but being an EU player WW war content was my first consideration.

[Sandman]

IMO, religions should be generated semi-randomly, rather than having a historical selection.

You could just mix and match religious traits, with a chance of occasional schisms and changes.

[jdd2007]

If Firaxis can do other things right, I see no need for a complex religion model. But the idea of crusades, jihads, popes and cathedrals does sound kind of fun.

[Wernazuma III]

I'm still of the opinion that religions is a very delicate thing to introduce. I can't really think it's good to have "judaism" evolve to Christianity or Islam... OTOH, it would be stupid not to allow new religions to pop up and one could argue that religion is part of the "resistence" of conquered foreign citizens already in Civ3.
I'd like to see religion implemented more like random events or plague:
Such a new religion has a random "strength", i.e. speed with which Citizens might be "infected" (just to use an image, I don't want you to take this as an offence!) with the new belief. The government would be able to either "embrace" or "favor" or "ignore" or "reject" or "persecute" a religion. (Democracies/Republics would not be allowed to the extremes of the scale). This attitude does various things:
OOH, it increases/decreases the spreading of a religion.
OTOH, it influences the "happiness" of the followers of that religion, in-/decreasing the chance of rebellion, recession, civil war or what else inner conflicts we might see in Civ4.
Thirdly, the attitude towards one religion affects that on the others. One isn't able to "favor" or "embrace" more than one religion

That's the idea for now, I think there could be much added. Open for discussion.

[Panag]

Originally posted by Wernazuma III
I'm still of the opinion that religions is a very delicate thing to introduce. I can't really think it's good to have "judaism" evolve to Christianity or Islam... OTOH, it would be stupid not to allow new religions to pop up and one could argue that religion is part of the "resistence" of conquered foreign citizens already in Civ3.
I'd like to see religion implemented more like random events or plague:
Such a new religion has a random "strength", i.e. speed with which Citizens might be "infected" (just to use an image, I don't want you to take this as an offence!) with the new belief. The government would be able to either "embrace" or "favor" or "ignore" or "reject" or "persecute" a religion. (Democracies/Republics would not be allowed to the extremes of the scale). This attitude does various things:
OOH, it increases/decreases the spreading of a religion.
OTOH, it influences the "happiness" of the followers of that religion, in-/decreasing the chance of rebellion, recession, civil war or what else inner conflicts we might see in Civ4.
Thirdly, the attitude towards one religion affects that on the others. One isn't able to "favor" or "embrace" more than one religion

That's the idea for now, I think there could be much added. Open for discussion.

hi ,


" judaism " cant evolve into an other religion , ...... other religions are born out of it , .....

as for " One isn't able to "favor" or "embrace" more than one religion " , well there are millions of people who seem to do so every day , .....


have a nice day

[Maniac]

I demand that Turywenzism be in Civ4!

Seriously, personally I think The List for Civ3 still has many good ideas for Religion.

[Wernazuma III]

Originally posted by panag
" judaism " cant evolve into an other religion , ...... other religions are born out of it , .....

But evolution carries the meaning of "getting better".

as for " One isn't able to "favor" or "embrace" more than one religion " , well there are millions of people who seem to do so every day , .....

Yes, but I'm talking about the state or civilization itself having that attitude.

[DarkCloud]

Thanks for taking over Religion, Nuclear Master... It's a very important thread to organize!

[Nikolai]

The old thread

I especially like Stefu's posts, since I think many of the old ideas is still good.

[Addled Platypus]

What about having a Jerry Farwell Improvement?

Takes 10% of the cities gold or he is called Home...


Could the Mormaons have a positve efffect on males only?


Just random thoughts

[Sir Og]

I think religion should be part of the social engeneering system. The choices for religion could be: spiritualism (the most primitive form of religion), polyteism, monotheism, atheism.
As already stated here religion should affect diplomacy, happiness, science, convercion rates.
I don't think that it would be a good idea to introduce actual religions as bhudism, christianity, islam etc. Maybe there should be an option to name your religion for scenario purposes or for fun.

[Tassadar500]

If people could post some of the old ideas here, it would be a lot easier for me